When Caitlyn Jenner gave her first talk show interview on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" on Tuesday, she admitted to DeGeneres that she "was not for" gay marriage in the past.
The self-proclaimed "traditionalist" clarified that her views had changed and she'd "never want to stand in front of anybody's happiness," but DeGeneres wasn't completely convinced.
Afterwards, during an interview with "The Howard Stern Show" on Sirius XM, DeGeneres reflected on Jenner's comments.
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"She still has a judgment about gay marriage," lamented the talk show host, who has been married to actress Portia de Rossi since 2008. "I said, you're wanting people to understand and accept you ... and you still have a judgment about gay people and marriage..."
DeGeneres explained that while she doesn't necessarily understand Jenner's experiences as a transgender woman, she still "want(s) her to be happy" and embraces the "I Am Cait" star's lifestyle even though it's different than her own.
Speaking of DeGeneres's personal life, things are "fantastic" between her and de Rossi, she said. You might've seen headlines claiming their marriage is in trouble, but as DeGeneres joked to Stern, she and de Rossi are "kind of flattered" by that nonsense!
"Because for a while we thought nobody cared about us," she said. "And we thought, oh, lesbians aren't worthy of tabloid stories, so now we're kind of flattered that they even care about us."
In actuality, DeGeneres told Stern, she and de Rossi aren't on the verge of breaking up--they don't even fight! "We are madly in love," she gushed, "and I guess it's boring."